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02 May 2024 23:13 #82247 by periwinkle
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I’m wondering if chlorine dioxide or sodium chlorite can be used as a disinfectant.  I’ve recently learned that there is a bacteria that comes from cats and can infect an entire house.  It survives for months on surfaces.  I was talking to a person from the local Fix.Adopt.Save organization and she told me that I should disinfect my home.

I have several mama kitties who have given birth in the past three months and every single kitten has died, without exception.  I’m certain there is something that is killing them.  Some lived only for a few days, while others lived for a few weeks, then they would get crusty eyes and noses and die about 3-6 days later.  It’s been really awful to go through this.

If anyone knows a recipe or formula for a disinfectant spray with MMS, that would be much appreciated.  Otherwise I will go buy Lysol because there are 4 new kittens that are about 12 days old and one has crusts on her eyes.  

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03 May 2024 03:26 - 03 May 2024 03:29 #82254 by Enoch
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nwsolutions.com.au/residential/neutralize-hand-surface-disinfectant/

It is widely used as a disinfectant.
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03 May 2024 12:29 - 03 May 2024 13:03 #82257 by CLO2
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Hypochlorous Acid (HOCL) works well as a surface disinfectant spray. MMS2 contains HOCL, and can be sprayed, with limitations.  



You can buy an HOCL electrolyzer to make very pure HOCL. You could even spray it into the cat's eyes and mouth if you have a fine mist sprayer. 

HOCL will keep its potency for a long time, whereas CLO2 only lasts a very short time when sprayed. 
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21 Dec 2024 06:19 #85095 by periwinkle
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I want to keep this as simple as possible and I like the idea of Hypochlorus Acid as a disinfectant.  I'm wondering if this is safe to use around pets?  Meaning that I would spray it to clean my home.  It seems like it would be an easier solution than MMS2 because it lasts longer.

I see several HOCL cleaners and found this one:   www.amazon.com/Hypochlorous-Cleaning-Medical-Professionals-Machines/dp/B08QGYD4PC?crid=16XMSY3GFFZGA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ee3WUNbMmHIyxnRh_PTHvA1zrq1p1iJ93j6A1wqBpD-Dxh7ZlV4J_TIhDMjDNrtR_bWoKVBRL8PgcvZ58YR1jVEvzNVTvF3Okb7r2doUWYG3RI079BWVKRc0UvFr-hJpfCeVX5IlfE5XGSUqlLUEEPqQFFJG_XK-EX1OIcazqWVPSEll1_OPgUPhGgYd__CYgHHaU182hxrLzXBH6RnGk5jSnDj8cEld8cqcdQJrB1on_5oTliyybtfOvvtpdhTj-QjxdS7w3i5zzj3Roxlh7LQkU2V-gPsftpGcxfw8zaZs8EXGN0T-SMwa8U7GoViwUDcsLCjqahJjbZ5icFLZI55P5SlGPk_j0dGktAHlMzAJpKsiBmr7mphb5Cw9Zd5mNwmwPaus6TnBLLHssqXa7zCeJDhg2tVAhhIVbz-R6AST-R2lDcPIY-AKaZ0JAP8W.l546MaRM61VnJtFjyrd03D97kt1iQwDq9oFJO3aT0zY&dib_tag=se&keywords=hypochlorous%2Bacid%2Bcleaner&qid=1734761268&sprefix=hypochlorous%2Bacid%2Bcle%2Caps%2C354&sr=8-6&th=1

That sure is a long link.  I hope it's okay to link it. 

As far as spraying something into my cats' noses and mouths, I would want to be very certain that it's safe for them.  So if using a powder and having to make HOCL, I probably wouldn't do it as it requires a device that is fairly pricey and I know I would probably not have the time to make the HOCL.  I'm wondering what other solutions there are.

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21 Dec 2024 09:24 - 21 Dec 2024 09:30 #85097 by CLO2
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I want to keep this as simple as possible and I like the idea of Hypochlorus Acid as a disinfectant.  I'm wondering if this is safe to use around pets?  Meaning that I would spray it to clean my home.  It seems like it would be an easier solution than MMS2 because it lasts longer.

I see several HOCL cleaners and found this one:   www.amazon.com/Hypochlorous-Cleaning-Medical-Professionals-Machines/dp/B08QGYD4PC?crid=16XMSY3GFFZGA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ee3WUNbMmHIyxnRh_PTHvA1zrq1p1iJ93j6A1wqBpD-Dxh7ZlV4J_TIhDMjDNrtR_bWoKVBRL8PgcvZ58YR1jVEvzNVTvF3Okb7r2doUWYG3RI079BWVKRc0UvFr-hJpfCeVX5IlfE5XGSUqlLUEEPqQFFJG_XK-EX1OIcazqWVPSEll1_OPgUPhGgYd__CYgHHaU182hxrLzXBH6RnGk5jSnDj8cEld8cqcdQJrB1on_5oTliyybtfOvvtpdhTj-QjxdS7w3i5zzj3Roxlh7LQkU2V-gPsftpGcxfw8zaZs8EXGN0T-SMwa8U7GoViwUDcsLCjqahJjbZ5icFLZI55P5SlGPk_j0dGktAHlMzAJpKsiBmr7mphb5Cw9Zd5mNwmwPaus6TnBLLHssqXa7zCeJDhg2tVAhhIVbz-R6AST-R2lDcPIY-AKaZ0JAP8W.l546MaRM61VnJtFjyrd03D97kt1iQwDq9oFJO3aT0zY&dib_tag=se&keywords=hypochlorous%2Bacid%2Bcleaner&qid=1734761268&sprefix=hypochlorous%2Bacid%2Bcle%2Caps%2C354&sr=8-6&th=1

That sure is a long link.  I hope it's okay to link it. You can delete the question mark and everything after it. All the other stuff is personal info about you that you shared with us. 
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 Here is the link without all the other unneeded info:  www.amazon.com/Hypochlorous-Cleaning-Medical-Professionals-Machines/dp/B08QGYD4PC  That product has 12% one star reviews.
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You can buy a HOCL generator for about $45 today (it is on sale). 

As far as spraying something into my cats' noses and mouths, I would want to be very certain that it's safe for them.  The animals should be fine. When I have HOCL in a room air purifier, I like to put my head near the outlet and breathe in the mist, let it flow into my open eyes and mouth, etc. Very refreshing! So if using a powder and having to make HOCL, I probably wouldn't do it as it requires a device that is fairly pricey and I know I would probably not have the time to make the HOCL. It takes only a few minutes to make HOCL and lasts about 2 to 4 weeks. I'm wondering what other solutions there are.
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21 Dec 2024 10:08 - 21 Dec 2024 10:13 #85098 by periwinkle
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Which one was on sale and was it on Amazon?  I'm looking now.

I don't see any product on Amazon for that price.  Sometimes products are only available in certain countries.  There is one for about $40 with 69% 5 star reviews, but 14% 1 star reviews.

I'm searching for "hypochlorus acid generator".  Would you send a link, CLO2 ?
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21 Dec 2024 13:17 - 21 Dec 2024 13:29 #85101 by CLO2
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ecoloxtech.com/products/natural-sanitizer-and-cleaner

I have one of these and it works well. I also have three other HOCL generators. 

   

 
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22 Dec 2024 12:06 #85108 by healthfreedom79
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hey I am sad to hear this story.
the kittens could have bacteria but also virus.
we had some kittens here with Typhus. it is very contagious and lethal.
it was before I knew about CDS though.
you could use CDS in many ways here.
I would definitly put some CDS i,n the water of the cats. check out some threads here for animals.
this should help them fight bacteria or virus.
you could also put 30 to 50ml of CDS in a glass in the room and then let the gas desinfect the room.
I would not stay in that room though ,you should not inhale the gas.
there is a protocol on Andreas Kalckers site for this.
I think it is the H protocol if i am not mistaking.
I would also spray every surface possible with CDS. especially the litterbox and sleeping places.
CDS should kill bacteria and virus and because of gas evaporating would not be dangerous to the kittens.
this treatment with the cds added to the drinking water should help them fighting!
I do not have experience but have seen a lot of people recommend it for anilmals though. so check this Forum for protocols please.
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23 Dec 2024 05:46 #85112 by periwinkle
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I sent a reply earlier CLO2 , but I don't see it here.  No idea what happened.  I'm wondering if your product has an AC plug?  I don't see it in the photo.  I want to order this product as soon as possible, but the description only mentions being powered by USB plug.  

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23 Dec 2024 05:49 #85113 by periwinkle
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There is something in the house for sure.  I put sodium chlorite in the water according to directions I found in the guide.  I think much more is needed though because my kittens keep getting sick and dying.  I was told to spray Lysol in the house to clear out a possible unknown bacteria that affects many cats, but I really don't like Lysol.  It doesn't seem to help anyway and I know that CD is much more powerful.  

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