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08 Oct 2013 05:37 #36580 by bobnmas
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Likewise, I've been doing Protocol 2000 for around 3 weeks now, and was almost ready to give up due to the unpleasant taste when taking it with water only. Am now taking it with non-Vitamin C juices and it's less offensive, but I am confused about the use of the MMS2 capsules.
Are they supposed to be taken in conjunction with the drops, or instead of? I've emailed the supplier, but merely received the original Protocol 2000 document, which doesn't really explain the usage, just that I apparently should have started the capsules 3 days after starting the MMS.
I would appreciate any assistance with this, Bob.

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08 Oct 2013 12:24 #36586 by pam
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I would definitely try the PAMMS formulation for the taste on the MMS,

I don't know which written document was sent to you, but the MMS2 is now maxed out at 1/2 a size 0 capsule, and you start low and go slow - so start with 1/16 of a capsule, and do 2x a day, then 3x a day, then 4x a day, at least every 2 hours. You can take it with the MMS or 1/2 an hour after. You MUST drink extra water with the MMS2 -a glass before you take it and a glass with it. That's a total of at least 16 oz of water. per dose.
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08 Oct 2013 14:28 #36594 by ZoRay
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to clarify
my suggestion is to use MMS1 activated in capsules. I mix MMS as usual and then install in a gel capsule. Size O holds 15 drops.
I mix 5 MMS w/5 citric 50% wait 20 seconds and add 5 dmso, install in O capsule and drink with half glass of water. The reason I make 15 drop capsules of MMS with dmso is that dmso diminishes the potency of mms a bit, so instead of 3 drops of each I recommend 5 of each. Each person can do as they wish, this is simply a guide I developed after reading and experiencing both MMS and disease.

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08 Oct 2013 17:15 #36599 by JLong
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I relate with you Johnps 100%. The smell actually makes me nauseous! A couple of things that have helped me was 1) Apple juice that has no "added vitamin C". This is a little difficult to find but I have found the brand Tree Top makes it in the gallon. You must always look at "ingredients" to make sure it says 100% apple juice. No other ingredients. Vitamin C could also be listed as L-ascorbic acid, or simply ascorbic acid.

The second thing that helps me is to add a pinch of baking soda in the water after it's mixed. This works wonders!

When I make my mouthwash, I add a drop of peppermint oil to my mix and I also add it to my waterpic!

I don't believe the peppermint oil effects the chemistry. Pam?

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10 Oct 2013 18:26 #36661 by Dimensiondali
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Dear Johnps,

The the carrot juice should'nt affect the chlorine dioxide levels. it has moderately low levels of Vitamin C.
Although it has extremely high amounts of Vitamin A(45133 IU per cup), so I would be careful to not drink too much of it.

1 Cup of Orange Juice(Raw) has about 124mg of Vitamin C
1 Cup of Carrot Juice has about 20.1mg of Vitamin C
1 Cup of Apple Juice(without any added Vitamin C) has just 2.2mg of Vitamin C

Here is a nutirition data reference for 1 cup of carrot juice:http://www.calobonga.com/calorieCounter/food/11655/1/calorie-counter.lz

Other juices that you can use are:
Grape, Pineapple, cranberry, berry

You can also drink it with tonic water to hide the taste

On another note:
I wonder if eating red bell peppers also is a factor, since it has such high concentrations of Vitamin C, about 190mg of Vitamin C per Cup. Its probably a good Idea to not eat those during an MMS treatment but I am not sure.
Also Guava and Papaya have high levels of Vitamin C. If anyone can comment on that, it would be great.

Regards,
Cesar

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10 Oct 2013 23:42 - 12 Oct 2013 00:46 #36667 by Truthquester
Replied by Truthquester on topic Flavor, smell of MMS and nausea.
For me the easiest thing to do is to just plug your nose while drinking it and then while your nose is still plugged, just pop some kind of small snack into your mouth and chew it up real good and then swallow at least some of it AND THEN finally unplug your nose. I use a small cookie but you could use anything that won't neutralize the CLO2. It's just to cover up the taste so that when you finally unplug your nose, what you end up tasting is the snack and NOT THE MMS.

Hope that helps,
Scott
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- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

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- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops
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11 Oct 2013 06:13 - 11 Oct 2013 06:22 #36676 by JB13
Replied by JB13 on topic Flavor, smell of MMS and nausea.
Scott is taking very large doses of PAMMS that most of us would never take, so he must be smelling Clo2 gas and is trying to avoid the aroma. Personally I take 3ml doses and there is NO odor or taste problem. By the way, a 3ml PAMMS dose is stronger than a 20 second activated 3 drop MMS dose.

A simple way to avoid smelling Clo2 gas is to drink your dose from a narrow neck bottle instead of a large mouth glass. The small opening of the bottle will keep most of the Clo2 aroma inside the bottle. When you drink from a glass your nose is inside the glass! When drinking from a bottle, your nose is outside the bottle. :)

Johnps, ZoRay, bobnmas and JLong, you all are using normal 20 second activated MMS and complain about the smell and taste. So do many others and that is why Scott and I came up with PAMMS. Why don't you try it? Jim Humble wants more people to test this new way of activating MMS.

Here is a very simple PDF file that describes how to make PAMMS. The only ingredient you may not have is the 4% HCl. Some of the suppliers carry it and you can find it locally. It may need to be diluted down to 4%. Kerri buys HCl from the local hardware store and dilutes it to 4%.

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12 Oct 2013 01:04 - 14 Oct 2013 12:39 #36696 by Truthquester
Replied by Truthquester on topic Flavor, smell of MMS and nausea.
Hi JB13,

Actually I'm only taking 2 drops more MMS in my PAMMS made with 4% hcl than Jim is recommending as a daily maintenance dose. I'm taking 8 he's recommending 6. So I just tried taking 6 drops in my PAMMS without plugging my nose and I can say that the taste is better than with citric acid but it's still unpleasant and I wouldn't want to take it without plugging my nose and eating a snack day after day for the rest of my life as I intend to do - that would get really old. But having it with a small snack as I do, makes it completely bearable.

Also, people who have life threatening diseases or really tuff ones, OR who are just trying to get over a flu that's passing through, will need to increase there doses in order to have the rapid success they're hoping to get with MMS. The nose plugging idea can really help these people.

If any of you want to try the nose plugging and eating the small snack idea, be sure that you eat something that doesn't neutralize the clo2. For example, eating a few peanuts should be ok or a vanilla wafer or a small ginger snap cookie, etc.

Hope that helps,
Scott

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I'm Scott McRae, creator of "The Antidote" & CDH with CLO2's help (Charlotte Lackney)

- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

- Join our group on MiWi (was deleted off of Facebook): mewe.com/join/coronavirusebolasolutions
- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops
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12 Oct 2013 03:04 #36702 by JB13
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Scott, I believe you are dosing PAMMS in milliliters and not drops. When you say you are taking 8 drops I think you are taking 8ml of the 240ml of stock PAMMS. That may be equivalent to an 8 drop dose of 20 second activated MMS dose which is about three times a Protocol 1000 dose. You are actually taking a Protocol 2000 dose. That would be the protocol for people with cancer, etc and at that level of dosing, there may be an odor and taste problem.

Jim says in his book: "When the person is well, revert to a maintenance dose of 6 drops twice a week (for young people) or 4 to 6 drops a day for people over 60." He also says not to exceed 3 drops per dose unless using Protocol 2000. Someone taking a maintenance dose is not fighting cancer and will not need to exceed 3 drops of 20 second activated MMS which might be 3ml of 240ml of PAMMS. But we know PAMMS is stronger, so I would suggest that 2ml of PAMMS might be the 3 drop 20 second activated MMS equivalent. Not the 8ml you are taking.

I assume most people will be using HCl and not citric acid, and we know the latter is a problem activator as far as taste is concerned. And some people can not tolerate citric acid at all. So, I would say only use 4% HCl. I believe the Bulgarian HRC has stopped using citric acid. I no longer use citric acid.

Have you tried drinking your large PAMMS doses from a narrow neck bottle instead of a wide mouth glass so your nose will not be in the glass? That will save you some money if you don't have to buy boxes of cookies monthly. :) And, if you are in the jungle conducting malaria testing, you probably won't have cookies with you either. Those small bottles you have would make great hourly dosing bottles! Just make up 8 hourly doses in them and take 'em to work. ;)

And, the 1 drop PAMMS equivalent to a 20 second activated MMS dose is actually more than that. So, you are really taking very large doses compared to 20 second activated MMS.

Anyway, I don't want to mislead people thinking that PAMMS is dosed by drops because it is not.

Actually we don't need to use drops for dosing, just use ml. Causes less confusion.

We do need to get on the same page, Scott. :)
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12 Oct 2013 13:52 #36708 by Truthquester
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Hi JB13,

I was referring to Jim's newsletter where he talks about taking 6 drops per day as a maintenance dose to keep from getting many diseases, including malaria and cancer. I believe that this is his latest word on the issue. Here's the link to the newsletter:

mmsnews.is/all-newsletters-list/192-mms-as-a-preventative-for-cancer-malaria-and-many-diseases-08-29-2013.html

And here's a quote from it:
"(Note: In this newsletter, every time I refer to drops, I am referring to activated drops of MMS, further on is an explanation on how to activate the MMS drops). For the average person (male or female) weighing approximately 160 pounds (74 kg) a 6 drop drink of MMS once a day would be about right to be certain to prevent these diseases. ........... In most countries around the world you can buy a 4 ounce (120 ml) bottle of MMS, along with the activator, for less than $25 dollars. There are 2400 drops in the 4 ounce bottle, this gives you a maintenance drink of 6 drops daily for 400 days—more than a year."

And regarding my saying drops and not milliliters - I said that I'm taking "2 drops more MMS in my PAMMS made with 4% hcl than Jim is recommending as a daily maintenance dose." And the reason why I said it like that is because first of all, in this thread I think people are talking about drops more that PAMMS and milliliters, and secondly, I'm not taking 8 ml of PAMMS-1 (1 drop per ml) I'm taking 4 ml of PAMMS-2 (2 drops per ml) and I wanted to make a true statement without having to explain what in the world PAMMS-2 is.

What I'm really trying to communicate though is that this way of pinching the nose, consuming your MMS drink and then chewing up some kind of snack really works well. I know it may look stupid but I don't care and I would hope that people who are dying from cancer or whatever, wouldn't care how it looks either. The important thing is that it can allow them, and me, to take higher doses of MMS (or PAMMS) in only water (no juice needed) without puking because of the taste or smell. I know that this is significant because before I discovered this method, there were times that I would have preferred to just be sick from the flu or whatever, than to take another awful tasting and smelling MMS drink. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, otherwise this thread would have never been started.

I hope that clarifies what I said sufficiently.

All the best,
Scott


I'm Scott McRae, creator of "The Antidote" & CDH with CLO2's help (Charlotte Lackney)

- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

- Join our group on MiWi (was deleted off of Facebook): mewe.com/join/coronavirusebolasolutions
- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops
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